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"Marxism in America" by Lt. Gen. (Ret.) W.G. Boykin - OAK

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  1. JanSz

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    Nice find Jan
     
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    Oh hell yes. Could not agree more. Nationalize everything....and call it a bailout.
     
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    Thanks for sharing, JanSz.
     
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    Hitler's Brownshirts in the health care legislation... you guys can't be serious. Man, how much stupider can political debate in the states get? One more looney with a video camera...
     
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    LOL...I know he really cracks me up. Brightens my day even as he's delivering sobering analysis.
     
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    Excellent rebuttal sir!
     
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    There is a term "useful idiots" that is cherished among left.

    Without "useful idiots" would not be able to get to their goal.


    ...............

    Targeting the Rich and Corporations
    Obamanomics 101 For Useful Idiots

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4966


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    What was that thing? - I can't remember where I heard it - the first person to bring up Stalin or Hitler loses the argument by default.
     
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    That makes complete sense - unless, of course, "Hitler" or "Stalin" are pertinent to the discussion.
     
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    Godwin's Law
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law


    Under usage...

     
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    It is occasionally also a useful reductio ad absurdam.
     
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    Yes, but in this case I'm not so sure it's so reductionist.
     
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    He made himself look like sort of an idiot by mentioning an extreme right-wing paramilitary group to illustrate the danger of creeping Marxism. Oh well, one flavor of totalitarianism is about like another.
     
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    Well, let's see. I assume you aren't disputing the creation of the "Ready Reserve Corp" for "domestic emergencies" in section 5210? What the fellow seemed to be arguing is that Marxism is invariably established via a whole host of tactics, one of those being the creation of a paramilitary group for domestic emergency/riot control, etc.

    Perhaps the issue is with the apparent confusion over "right" (Hitler/Facism) and "left" (Marxism, Lenin, etc.)

    However, we really have to be careful here^.

    In Europe, pretty much all parties - excepting fringe parties - are statist and collectivist. The only difference is, what part of society, what class, is at the helm of that state. Is it the military? Then they call it "right." Is it a bunch of "intellectuals"? Then they call it "left." In practice, the division isn't all that neat.

    Here in the US, however, that^ continuum isn't relevent. In the US, by "right" we mean small government. By left we mean collectivist/statist. The National Socialist Party and the Third Reich were extremely statist/collectivist. Therefore, we refer to them here, in the US, as Leftist movements/regimes. Any dictatorship or totalitarian system is leftist because it is collectivist/statist.

    In practice, the totalitarian regimes under Lenin/Stalin, Mao, and Hitler differed very little. They have far more in common than they exhibit differences.

    In any case, the video of the children is very much like the Hitler youth - I'd argue vigorously for that. Remember, the Hitler youth wasn't an apparently violent or shocking thing - it was admired, even here in the US, where there were many Hitler youth groups and camps.
     
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