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"Marxism in America" by Lt. Gen. (Ret.) W.G. Boykin - OAK

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  1. Katzenjammer

    Katzenjammer Active Member

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    It doesn't change the argument at all good sir. Good try though.

    Otherwise, when you have an actual argument that's on-topic, I'll address it.
     
  2. Kronos

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    That is a little more than Disturbing....
     
  3. Katzenjammer

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    Yep. And as I've said above, this is not an isolated thing. Go to your local public school and you'll hear much the same.
     
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  4. Kronos

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    By on topic you mean supported by factually incorrect information right?
     
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    Ummm...no. The legislation does in fact contain language for the creation of a "corp" for domestic emergencies.

    Are you going to dispute this?
     
  6. Kronos

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    Yes, on the same grounds as my original response to you saying...

    I do NOT dispute that there is a Ready Reserve Corp
    I do NOT dispute your questioning of the need for and constitutionality of this organization.

    What I AM disputing is the original and persistent statement that this group is "Created" by section 5210.

    Section 5210 clarifies the hierarchy and funding for the same "Ready Reserve Corp" that has already existed for over 60 years... nothing NEW is CREATED by this legislation.

    I AGREE with questioning the need for this Corp in the first place.
    I AGREE with questioning the constitutionality of this Corp.

    I DISAGREE with misrepresenting this as some big NEW issue because first it is not, and second because doing so damages the credibility of any associated information or opinion.

    Now, I have gone back and re-watched the original video posted and the comments that followed along with looking again at the sites I used to fact check the statements from both. It may very well be the case that I am crediting you with statements made elsewhere, and that being pissed off at other presentations of this information is being transferred to you due to the particular wording of your argument. In that case this is an argument about semantics instead of the actual issue...

    Which just makes this all a great example of one of my favorite sayings...

     
  7. Wise Guy

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    Epic rant on Welfare by Joe Rogan, skip to 2hr, 5 min in.

    [video]http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/16549132[/video]
     
  8. Katzenjammer

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    All legislation - when enacted - is very much older than most people realize. The legislation "creating" the wartime agencies during WWII were actually the "amended" legislative acts that "created" many of the agencies in the New Deal, which in turn were legislative acts that were "amended" versions legislation that "created" the WWI agencies, and so on. I routinely assume that any legislation long predates the language I am reading right now.

    The act does call for the creation of such an agency, regardless of whether any such language/legislation has languished in the halls of Congress or a law firm somewhere for many years or even centuries. I don't recall anyone saying anything to the effect that this legislative language was in any meaningful sense new.

    So, as you suggest, you may well be arguing with a ghost of your own making.

    Indeed, you are correct - there are many mis-informed people, including on the internet.

    I will, however, say that it's a bit uncalled for to question a person's credibility on such a small - if entirely absent, as far as I can tell - issue.

    Finally, this country is falling apart sir. It seems to me that there are much bigger issues at stake.

    Peace,

    ~katz
     
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    :thumbup:
     
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    Bulldog - this is the problem wtih polling and Ron Paulers. They are a highly dedicated - some might say cultish - group who swarm online polls and overwhelm them far out of proportion to their actual numbers. They are experts at skewing polls so that they appear to reprent a much larger segment of the population than the do, especially when it comes down to actual voting. Rightscoop, for example, took down Ron Paul as an option in their poll for this exact reason. Rightly so in my opinion. He will not get more than 1-3% of the national vote. He is absolutel unelectable. He is nearly lunatic in many of his opinions. You really need to look into who he is, and what he really represents. I think it will prolly shock you.
     
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    Haha! The resemblance to you, WG, is uncanny.

    Get used to it good fellow - she may very well be the nominee. And for very good reasons. We'll see though. One thing for sure: Paul won't be, regardless of the Iowa straw poll good sir!

    ~katz
     
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    All three are noble goals.

    Hopefully Tea Party will support all three.


    ...........
     
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    Who would ever listen to 1 hour and 24 minutes of these disgusting arseholes?
     
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    people get the government they deserve.
     

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