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"Marxism in America" by Lt. Gen. (Ret.) W.G. Boykin - OAK

Discussion in 'Off Topic Discussion' started by JanSz, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. Katzenjammer

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    The Tea Party is a conservative movement. It isn't neo-conservative; but it does have libertarian leanings. Unlike libertarians, Conservatives are realists about the world and are rooted in history.

    On the whole, the Tea Party won't support these positions - these will always be fringe positions because they are naive and dangerous positions. Which is one reason among many that Paul will never get more than 3% of the national vote.
     
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  2. Katzenjammer

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    That's one thing I'll prolly never understand.
     
  3. JanSz

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    Getting back to a gold standard (or some flavor of it) is naive, we are stuck with fiat money.

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  4. Bulldog

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    In bold above....
     
  5. Kronos

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    Sorry but I asked you to explain your statement that who he is and what he REALLY represents is "Shocking".

    Making vague statements questioning his past, his associations, and his possible mental state then dismissing the possibility to question those statements is beyond lame.

    Answering the original question as to why what he REALLY stands for is "Shocking" in YOUR opinion by listing off a few points that are NOT what he stands for but rather what some media outlets would have you believe tells me one of two things.

    1. You don't know what Ron Paul REALLY stands for, probably because your listening to what others are saying about him instead of what HE has to say...
    2. You don't care what Ron Paul REALLY stands for because you've already made up your mind that you need more government to better take care of you...

    So for the time being, let's put aside your past, your questionable alliances, your wacko assertions, your obvious belief in socialism, and your unhealthy love for sheep.... and just answer the question of what about his REAL positions you think is shocking.

    I'll even give you a little help by pointing out that I have already provided a link that explains his positions, backed up by a long and consistent history of voting and speaking in promotion of those ideals. Please tell me what about THOSE positions is shocking as I really don't have any interest in what is shocking about the misrepresentations perpetuated by mainstream media or those that chose to remain ignorant of the real facts.
     
  6. Wise Guy

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    Oh SNAP, Kronos comes out of nowhere and lays it down on that last post.

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. Katzenjammer

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    Nice try WG! LOL!

    Man, WG, you're still smarting from all the beatings I've given you?

    That's kinda sad. You should just get over it.

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    Kronos, I'll address your post when I get the time. Just wanted to say that I'll put together my takedown of Ron Paul anyway I want to; that's my perogative sir!

    By the time I get to Paul's wacko/weirdo stuff (yes, there's lots of it my good man - I worked at CATO and was a libertarian for a long time, and I've been following him for a long time as well, and know quite a bit about him...unfortunately) - that is, when we first address the incoherence and outright silliness of his core positions, the wacko/weirdo stuff will just be icing on the cake. Fair 'nuff?

    Btw, posting a wiki-link doesn't even come close to demonstrating the coherence or wisdom of Paul's positions. I'm sure you know that though. :)

    Anyway, much more later.

    Here's a piece to keep the conversation warm in the meantime: http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/no-we-shouldnt-take-ron-paul-more-seriously

    ~katz
     
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  8. Wise Guy

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    Oh look, your dodging the questions of Kronos. Shocker.
     
  9. JanSz

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    [​IMG]

    Ground Zero Mosque organizers are trying to re-sell
    their mosque in kinder, gentler language. But the facts
    remain the same: millions of dollars are about to be pumped
    into a major Muslim center and now organizers are using
    the 9/11 tragedy to promote their efforts.

    + + Stand Against The Ground Zero Mosque

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    I'm still amazed that so many people don't believe that what Michael Scheuer says is true. If there is anyone who would truly know why we are attacked by terrorists, it would be him. Of course you will never hear the Neo-Cons admit he is right because it would bring an end to their empire building.

    http://non-intervention.com/988/interventions-costs-vs-non-interventions-benefits/

    For those who think Dr. Ron Paul is an Isolationist.....your are wrong. He is a Non-Interventionist, and that is how the Founding Fathers envisioned this country to be.
     
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    paul is our only hope, but he will be marginalized and if reaches office will be killed or caged and then all of he constitutionalists hopefuls will fade away for there is no one other.....in other words we are fooked

    im moving to michigan and living under ground! yes i used the word and now my mouth feels dirty
     
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    He is grossly underestimating the support that Ron Paul has at this time. He is right about one thing though. A lot of his supporters do find all the other candidates unacceptable. Why? Because they are all liars who will do whatever it takes to get elected regardless what they plan on doing once elected. Dr. Paul is the only current republican candidate with an ounce of integrity and I'm sick and tired of all the liars and crooks in Washington D.C.

    I'll vote for Dr. Paul in the primaries and if he doesn't get the nomination then this may very well be the first presidential election that I will not vote. As a matter of fact I just changed my voter registration from independent to republican so that I could vote in the primaries (Michigan just change to closed primaries). And frankly the republicans could be in trouble if Dr. Paul does not win their nomination, with most of the republicans and Independents that do support Dr. Paul feeling the same way that I do. And to be honest I think that in the long run we would be better off letting Obama win again (if Dr. Paul doesn't win the republican nomination) so that he can bring the country completely to it's knees and wake some people up.
     
  14. JanSz

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    Use of all drugs should be legal.
    To expedite demise of drug addicts, currently illegal drugs may be given out freely, provided that there is enough private donations to support that effort.
    To take care of uninsured and those in need;
    Religious leaders should open shelters for those who need it, heavy emphasis on prayers, supported only by donations from general public.
    Above should solve Afghans need to produce poppy, and Mexican gangsters will not need to take part in drugs distribution.

    Every about 2-3 months, good size bomb should be dropped in proper place figured out by CIA, say, Tehran vicinity, Pyongyang vicinity, Caracas (??), and so on.

    We need to keep military in good shape and standing.
    We should not be proactive, sending them places.
    When asked for military help, we should help only if they adopt our constitution and our way of life and language.
    Otherwise there is little difference between flavors of oppressive governments, so we just pray for them.
    Upkeep of military is expensive, whoever ask for help, should expect to pay for it.


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    There are reserved places in Netherlands, Germany and Switzerland where drug addicted are free to use their drugs or even supplied with them along with all the necessary. Then drug addicted are happy to go in these places because they are safe and assisted with everything. Doing so these countries have reduced much the social impact and criminality linked to drug production and abuse.
     
  16. JanSz

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    I am sure that life of drug addicts is not easy.
    We need similar program in USA.

    Problem is that in places you describe the cost is most likely contained and minimal.
    In USA everything have to mushroom into trillions.

    Feel free to add more details and descriptions on how all this is working.


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    Thanks very much.
     
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    thank u very much :)
     
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    thanks for sharing
     

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