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Symptoms of high (or low) DHT

Discussion in 'Male Health & HRT' started by seekonk, Jul 16, 2010.

  1. seekonk

    seekonk Active Member

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    Can high DHT cause similar symptoms as low E2, for example, joint/tendon pain, etc.? What would be other symptoms of high or low DHT?

    The answer may be of value to those of us trying to get a fix on our E2 based on symptoms.
     
  2. Massa

    Massa New Member

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    interestingly DHT is bashed all over the web :beatdeadhorse5:
    without anybody providing conclusive evidence apart from benign prostate hyperplasia, which has lately been tracked back to estrogen. I could however find this study:

    which should make you think of the BAD, BAD DHT again :001_tongue:
     
  3. diesiel

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    I Also laugh at all the people (idiots) on hairloss forums championing propecia for its anti-dht actions, because dht is totally useless for you......


    I'm serious, if you say something negative towards propecia you pretty much become ostracized, i think people just have too many emotions invested into the drug that supposedly saves their hair.
     
  4. Dr. John Crisler

    Dr. John Crisler Lord of the Forum Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Probably fall-out from the radical feminism (and today's uever-Liberalism) when anything "macho" is automatically deemed evil.

    LOL
     
  5. Dr. John Crisler

    Dr. John Crisler Lord of the Forum Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Head of hair...penis that doesn't work.

    Not a very good trade, in my book.
     
  6. Dr. John Crisler

    Dr. John Crisler Lord of the Forum Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Guys may have issues with urination, as the DHT ramps up the central nervous system.
     
  7. Dr. John Crisler

    Dr. John Crisler Lord of the Forum Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Every time I hear the phrase "bad DHT" I could just hurl.

    DHT is responsible for "all things male".
     
  8. JanSz

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    How much over top range is still acceptable for you?

    ...
     
  9. pmgamer18

    pmgamer18 Prince of the Forums

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    It's hard to find good info about DHT my levels on gels were 3x's above the top of the range up until I hit this level I was fine then it started acting on my Prostate. Here is a good read about DHT.
    Move down the page to read this.
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/reform8.htm
     
  10. chipdouglas

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    When you say ramps up the CNS, should I take it that it may lead to ongoing anxiety ?
     
  11. ptm82379

    ptm82379 New Member

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    I like DHT. I have been on both ends of the scale and Higher is better.

    I rather like chasing my wife around!!!

    No such thing as bad DHT for me
     
  12. seekonk

    seekonk Active Member

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    I have had high DHT and low DHT (via propecia).

    No difference in the sex department for me that I could really tell, although sensation may be a little better with lower DHT.

    But then, I am extremely sensitive to DHT. Even on Propecia, my body hair will go crazy, eyebrows, ear hair, nose hair, beard, etc. So I probably need less DHT than the average guy.

    But I am prone to anxiety, restlessness, sleeplessness, etc. So if DHT ramps up the CNS, then to me it would be bad DHT.

    Also, it has been mentioned here before that high DHT may increase visceral fat, which would be bad.
     
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  13. Picton

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    Must have missed that one!
    Oh dear, no indeed, not good that, I have got enough to start with :-(

    Thankfully with me, nothing seems to have gone berserk, just "appropriate" hair growth, getting toward something like I had before, and it has not happened too quickly, no new head hair loss either.
     
  14. Massa

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    it has also been mentioned that DHT does cause cancer and will make all your hairs fall out. the difference to your statement is, however, that these two had at least a few reliable studies to back them up - where is the study for the DHT-FAT connection. If it is not to overconversion (i.e. along with low T) I suspect high DHT wont make you fat (if not the opposite)
     
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    I've heard about the DHT-visceral fat connection as well--I'd REALLY like to see evidence for this. I'm not saying I don't believe this, but I've never seen anything worthwhile as far as evidence. It'd be good to either put this to rest or provide evidence for it.

    I'll browse Pubmed.
     
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    with low or high?
     
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    I really think this is my issue.

    How to calm the CNS?
    Have you ever considered Alpha, Beta or Alpha/Beta Blockers?


     
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    Bray's Handbook of Obesity, ch. 19.
     
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    Do you guys think DHT is mostly responsible for how deep the voice sounds or is it another metabolite of T (or of DHT)?
     

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