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From a single dose of a blend of 100 mcg Sermorelin, 250 mcg GHRP-2 and 50 mcg GHRP-6, my serum GH was over 10 and my IGF was 175. I use a somanostatin inhibitor huperzine A to help release more GH also.
While I will not argue coaxing it as you described may be moot. There are other evolving "fixes" and "augmentations" that are close to the surface of no longer being hidden that no one is even close to discussing in this tread.
The real questions is in my mind, precursors or replacement and not just for HGH/IGF-1, but for T as well.
I have given you 1/3 to 50% of the equation in getting the excessive ethanol checked off that inhibits the P450 to modulate cholesterol into preg. Two other game changers when combined will force current HRT to have to reorganize, rethink or fade away away and be replaced.
A few things to consider: T will elevate IGF-1. also there are other mitigating factors that I think makes it very unwise to be throwing out range targets like they are some universal law. if i were to maintain the upper 1/3 of a 25 year old man for TT (ie 1100 ng/dl) i would be slamming my hct/hgb into the high 50's/low 60's putting myself in danger and not loading any iron, zero. or at least my friend with the hemochromatosis (HH) would not....
if you are not factoring TT/FT/BAT, E2 and SHGB then I think you are making a big mistake because you will be boosting IGF-1 and in theory can still have GH issues. In HH adipose fat will not move without GHRT. GH def was defined as >5 ng/ml, see attached.
In those cases you can not just readily apply some range that is agreed upon by a base of customers to a certain demographic and call it a day.
I am concerned over this issue as well. I have a mid section that is typical to HH and describes my friend in the attached clinical. He has not used peptides, but is getting desperate enough if the next round of reaching out doesnt help him, to do it himself.
Do peptides represent the raw building blocks of GH or is there other factors, such as what is the raw material for the legids to produce T?
If the raw materials are present then in theory signaling can be restored and all of he HRT/peptide issues go away.
Now the metrics of 4mm and the other data, the empirical, not the obligatory comments from the medical peanut gallery that work 3.5 days a week are more concerned about their wife with the $10,000 tits and country club membership, is more convincing. Sorry for you and your pituitary.
Last edited by 52188; 09-18-2012 at 07:58 AM.
I am 36 and had a test lvl of mid 200's and my IGF-1 was 190ish. Once I got my test lvls to 750-800 my last IGF was 423 so for me at least getting my test lvls up helped my IGF1. Not sure if this is for anyone but it did help me and after 1 year on TRT I can tell I have a much stronger / leaner build.